Indoor Amnesia auto fem by Canuk Seeds

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Surrounded by Sativa Photo's :cooldance:

Curious how she will respond to 12/12 light !

Durban Poison, Lambs Bread, Double Chocolate, Green Crack and The Amnesia auto (sativa dominate).

All Canuk seeds from True North except the Green Crack from Crop Kings. Only had two seeds of the Green Crack so I decided to germinate both and be done with them.... .

The Girls 18 July Day 10.jpg


My intention is to top/train and try to keep these under four feet.

This will challenge my trimming skills, I Hate cutting off healthy growth and a 2' x 2' footprint isn't a lot for a sativa.

Three gallon fabric pots with ProMix HP with Mychorrhizae, their version of Dynomyco :cool:

Fourteen inch saucers and thirteen inch plant elevators.

Nutrients are Mega Crop one part with Bud Explosion later in flower.

Well water with a ppm of ~500 and ph of ~7.5. I will not be using ph down !

The ProMix Hp is ph buffered and the MC is chelated (?) and worked well in my last grow !

My grow room or enclosure is a number of 4' high moveable panels with roughly a 4' x 4' footprint. Inside a 10' x 10' x 8' high room inside a 26' x 36' x 10' room. The panels are hollow core plastic lined with tin foil and sit 3/4" above the floor.

Most likely will increase the footprint to 5 x 5..

Two Honeywell 7" fans at 30 degrees, the idea is they draw air from the bottom and direct it up to the light. Then there is another fan exhausting the room. I normally don't have any problem keeping the temps in the mid 70's with a 600w MH/HPS light in a 42" parabolic reflector.

The light weight panels make it easy to move them out of the way and bases with 2" casters will make it easy to work on/rotate the plants to train/water/etc.

Older image of my set up, plants are auto's !

Grow enclosure 27 Apr.jpg


I don't do anything special for humidity. Evaporation from the fabric pots and the plants will usually help keep the RH a little above ambient for the rest of the larger room, 40-50% depending on the season.

For germinating seeds I've settled on placing each seed in a shot glass with about 1/2" of distilled water. They are then placed inside a plastic container and set on my kitchen table. Go away and leave them be... Peeking is permitted !

Last grow, five seeds, five seedlings. This grow six seeds, six seeds sprouted with this process.

In water 5 Jul.jpg


Thirty six hours in the water and all had cracked or had a tap root. I let them go 48 hours before planting them in 650 g yogurt containers and under a 85W CFL bulb.

My half bale of ProMix HP is likely a year old and dry so I wet it to run off with a solution of .7g MC in 2.5L of water. Half of their recommended dose for seedlings. ~ 100 ppm over my well water.

FYI > I totally forgot about my usual procedure for planting, pock a hole in the soil with your index finger the depth of your fingernail !

Place seed in the bottom and gently fill with soil. I used a toothpick to make a cone shaped hole and had some trouble getting a few seeds in without undue handling, sigh.... Senior moment, eh ?

As I understand it, the depth helps the seedling shed it's shell easier...

Day 4 was first watering, 1/2 cup each.

On Day 7 all of the girls were praying and working on their third set of leaves !

Couple things of note.

On my last seedlings start, I made a box of white foam core to maximize the light from the bulb.

This time I made a cylinder of cardboard 12" high. As expected I noticed the first signs of green mold.

No problem, scuffed up the surface of the soil. Gone.

Then after their first watering I noticed the start of a white mold. Oh oh....

Not surprising since they weren't getting any air movement in the cylinder !

Removed the cylinder, scuffed the surface of the soil and installed a 50 cfm fan about 20" away.

Disaster avoided :biggrin:

I should know better, air movement is important at all stages of growth, just another senior moment !

The girls containers were feeling light enough for a watering late yesterday (Day 9).

So I forced myself to wait till this morning !

First one I watered from the bottom. Just placed the container in a small saucer and added water.

Great idea, took too long, sigh.

A tray would have worked for all of them at the same time but I wanted to limit them to a healthy 1/2 cup each.

So I watered around the outside of the containers from the top !

Just enough to moisten the soil with no run off....

That seems to be the happy spot !

Cheers
 
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Day 15 Update !

Had another "Oh Shyt" moment :doh:

About midnight day before last I checked the girls before lights out and they Needed water.

They all got +1/2 cup and sure enough, the Amnesia auto fell over, again, darn..

Moved some soil to prop her up a bit and put them to bed.

In the morning she wasn't looking happy so I added some soil (to all) and built a mound around the stems. Then I used a syringe to wet the mount and gently tamped it.

I also added about a 1/4 tsp of aloe vera gel to the litre or so of left over premixed feed.

It contains plant hormones that help stimulate new root growth and can ease or prevent transplant shock. Figured it couldn't hurt....

The Amnesia auto is at the back right, this is just after adding the mound @ 12:30 Pm yesterday....

The Girls 1230 PM 22 July Day 14.jpg


And @ 9:30 PM. Amazingly enough she is back to praying ! That is one tough cookie ;)

The Girls 930 PM Day 14.jpg


This afternoon @ 2:30 PM, Day 15. After the excessive stretch and falling over, twice, she is the largest of the bunch !

The Girls 230 PM Day 15.jpg


I can see it is already time to up the nutrients, normally my Cotyledon leaves stay green much longer !

And I should be able to get these girls under a proper light in the next few days :cooldance:

Cheers, eh ?
 
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Day 17

The Girls each received a 1/2 cup of a solution of 1g of MC in 4L's of water in preparation for (hopefully) up potting later today !

The Girls 1230 PM 25 July Day 17.jpg


Cheers
 
A little p*ssed at Amazon, Again.

Picked up my 5 pk of 3 gallon grow bags this afternoon.

NOT Even close, sigh... The description says they are 40D x 30W x 30H centimeters, isn't that an oval ? :cooldance:

Assume the 30cm is the diameter and 40cm is the height, that works out to 6.22 Imperial gallons or 15.7" H x 11.8" in diameter, same rip off as the last time I ordered a different brand of 3 gallon bags from them :doh:

In reality they are 9" w x 9" H for 2.06 Imperial Gallons !

Oh well, what do you expect for 5 bags @ $11, including shipping :biggrin:

Now I have to figure out what to do with two of my girls for the time being.

I am ordering two more sets of saucers and plant elevators in a couple of days. At least a week to get here...

Also darn curiosity has bit me in the arse again, he, he...

Going to add GH MaxGrow and MaxBloom to the order !

Will use that on the Amnesia auto and one of the Green Cracks...

Image is Amazon/Flamor brand 3 gallon bag sitting inside a true 3 Imperial gallon bag.

Flarmor grow bag.jpg


Cheers, eh ?
 
Day 18 and four of the girls have been transplanted into my 3 gallon fabric bags ! (11"W x 9"H)

Decided it's worth a trip to town tomorrow to see if I can source bags locally. The two Green Cracks are still under the 85w CFL bulb.

No pictures but the roots were already circling the bottom !

Can't remember where I read it but the shelf life of ProMix HP is said to be one year. Didn't really need another bale but I layered the old soilless with the new... BTW > a bale here is $37.

Mixed up a solution of 2g of Mega Crop in 4L of water and gave them ~ a litre each, just enough to wet the top couple of inches.

Lights are @50% and 30" from the tops.

Will see how they like that tomorrow, too pooped to measure par/lux right now and just put a pork roast in the oven :cooldance:

Transplanted 26 July Day 18.jpg


Cheers
 
Day 19

The two Green Cracks were transplanted into new 3 gallon fabric bags this evening.

How appropriate the bags are also Green :cooldance:

Three bucks each at Dollarama, they are 11" high instead of wide. Don't think the girls will notice !

The handles suck but I will deal with it...

Saucers and elevators for them in the mail.

And just because I was curious I used only the old soilless !

I'm planning to do unspeakable things to at least one of these girls, he, he...

I'd like to try the ponytail thingee in lieu of topping !

At least a little more management of the upper canopy than I normally do. Maybe having more plants than I planned on is a good thing !

Having a good well water day, ph after adding 2g of MC to 4 L of water is 6.0 !

Ppm's were 650, I checked the waters ppm's a couple of days ago with no nutrients and it was 450 .

Both readings shift a bit with the seasons.

Gave them 2 L of feed each. I feed at every watering but I've been know to overfeed and need a flush :doh:

But that is the beauty of ProMix HP, very easy to flush.

I put a couple of pieces of wood across a 5 gallon pail, put the pot on them and flush away. 4L x 2 of just water and then another 4L with feed.

At next watering I'll likely increase to 3 L and then the next maybe the full 4 L.

Depends on how long it takes for the bags to feel dry (by weight).

I don't like to see them go more than three or four days to dry at this stage.

Temperature currently is 28.5C (83F) and rh is 41%.

Lights are now @75% and phone app gives me a par reading of 360.

BTW > the girls didn't skip a beat after their transplant, even the girl I fumbled and lost part of the medium before I could upend it and get it into it's prepared hole :biggrin:

About an hour ago...

The Girls 27 July Transplant Day 19.jpg


This is my pot set up.

The plan is to rotate them 180 degrees and one spot to the right at every watering.

And increase my area to 4' x 5' soonish and to 5' x 5' in the next few weeks. The flat panels will go from 14" wide to 24" wide.

Likely pick up a sheet of 3/4" rigid insulation for $18 and just put it on top of the existing panels. Description says it has a reflective side so maybe I won't even have to add tin foil :cool:

Castors 27 July Day 19.jpg


Cheers
 
Day 21

The pots were relatively dry this morning. I attribute that to the addition of old soilless which was completely dry and relatively high temperatures of ~35C.

Gave them all 2L and moved the panels apart a few inches and turned up the extraction fan.

I'm now thinking I will leave the panels apart instead of making the flat ones wider. Temps are usually a little higher until the parabolic reflector is raised above the level of the side panels.

The Girls 29 July Day 21.jpg


Cheers
 
Some fun with the camera and set a reference point for Day 22.

Double Chocolate photo @ 8 1/2", second is the Amnesia Auto @ 7 1/2".

The Green Crack that was in a single serving yogurt container is 5", she's got some root growing to do !

Rest of the girls range from 5" to 6".

It is all coming back to me now why I prefer to wait for fall/winter grows :doh:

On a whim, I turned up the lights to 100% two days ago. Internodal spacing went from inches to fractions of an inch on the new growth ! Not really an issue but...

No matter how I arranged my fans/panels the temperature was + 35C, sigh..

The larger room temperature remained around 22C with A/C. Crazy hot here the last couple of days, 40C in the shade north side of the house.

So back to 50% power for now, temperature now @ 29C and slowly dropping !

With this heat the top surfaces of the pots looked Really dry. And in my pictures there seems to be a slight green cast to the soilless. So I fluffed up the top and sure enough, just under the surface is slightly moist.

That means we are still on track for a 3-4 day watering.

Double Chocolate photo

Double Chocolate 30 July Day 22.jpg


Amnesia auto

Amnesia auto 30 July Day 22.jpg


Cheers
 
Day 24, one week from transplant !

Before I forget, again, I should mention.

Due to circumstances both of my two auto grows with a total of six plants started with the seedlings under an 85w CFL bulb with a color temperature of 5500K for roughly 21 days before transplanting into ProMix HP.

Then under a 600w Metal Halide with a color temperature of 4200K.

One went five weeks before the move to the bigger light and yielded 13.2oz. in a 2g plastic pot with AN M/G/B nutrients !

The Ladies ranged from 3' to 4' and finished between 90 to 120 days.

Yields ranged from 6oz. to 11g short of a pound !

Last grow, 3g fabric pots with ProMix HP, MC one part. A few additions of Bud Explosion.

Done.

Looks like this is turning into a plug for ProMix HP :biggrin: Blame it on the Gellato :cooldance:

It is buffered so if your water isn't too much out of wack, there is no need to ph.

It contains Mycorrhizae which >
  • Improves fertilizer uptake; reduces fertilizer costs
  • Increases the resistance of plant to stresses; reduces maintenance costs
  • Optimizes results without changing growing practices
  • Increased root mass, flower production, plant size, yield
  • Improved water uptake and increased drought resistance

The porosity is such that you can't overwater. It only holds so much before running off.

And it's a breeze to flush if you have to,

You CAN water too often, I leave the pots to feel DRY before watering again.

Best to judge by picking the pot up.

I don't fully water until the plants are able to drink what they've been given in three or four days. Right now that's 2L.

It contains no nutrients so you have Total control over the feed !

And $37 for a bale here.... 107L/60#. about 8 x 3gallon pots. $5/pot.

As I said, Day 24, seven days from transplant.

Amnesia auto.

Amnesia 1 Aug Day 24.jpg


Feeble attempt at femming a Double Chocolate photo, sigh...

Double Chocolate 1 Aug Day 24.jpg


And The Girls..

The Girls 1 Aug Day 24.jpg


Cheers
 
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