Indoor Hope's perpetual Skyline grow

[hope2grow]

Day 7..

 

[hope2grow]

Shes in the wee 2x2 tent atm.. no environmental controls.. just winging it..

2 tents in a wet room.. who said i dont like a challenge.. humidity very hard to handle.

 

[Del boy]

Shes in the wee 2x2 tent atm.. no environmental controls.. just winging it..
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2 tents in a wet room.. who said i dont like a challenge.. humidity very hard to handle.
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He who dares wins mate

 

[Teetee]

I'm gonna get one Bruv. You sold it to me, but I'm seeing 2 models, one with an integrated sensor probe ($55), and another with a sensor probe on a 12ft cable ($65). Even with the exchange rates, shit costs more over here, grrrrr.
What did you go for?
I am dreading it in a way, cos I've been living in blissful ignorance dealing with the horrendous environmental conditions.... I see your max temps and RH and I know I'm way higher without having a device to tell me that!

I have an AC infinity carbon filter and its a well made piece of kit, so I'm sure the other stuff they make is good too.
Just watch out you don't get too sucked into the add ons.

About 12 odd years ago back in the UK, I had an Ecotechnics unit then swapped it for a Harvest Master control unit , and I found myself buying all the extra bells and whistles to go with it, before I knew what was going on, I had a heater, dehimudifier, humidifier, ozone machine, side lights, DWC with oversized air pumps and a chiller unit to maintain the nute temps and CO2 all for a 1st timer wardrobe grow....

This was in 2013.
Complete overkill, and so many parameters to keep under control. Plus it was supposed to be a stealth grow, but the noise from the fans, air pumps and water cooler was full on!
SO much cash pissed up the wall and a total fuck up. The only good thing about that gear was the Helios 6 LED I got from Muddy RIP.
Early adopter of LEDs, me.

Anyway, I'm glad the Coco and airpot combo is working for you mate.... keep up the good work, and let me know about the sensor... I'll be picking your brains about VPD once I pull my finger out and get one.

 

[hope2grow]

I'm gonna get one Bruv. You sold it to me, but I'm seeing 2 models, one with an integrated sensor probe ($55), and another with a sensor probe on a 12ft cable ($65). Even with the exchange rates, shit costs more over here, grrrrr.
What did you go for?
I am dreading it in a way, cos I've been living in blissful ignorance dealing with the horrendous environmental conditions.... I see your max temps and RH and I know I'm way higher without having a device to tell me that!

I have an AC infinity carbon filter and its a well made piece of kit, so I'm sure the other stuff they make is good too.
Just watch out you don't get too sucked into the add ons.

About 12 odd years ago back in the UK, I had an Ecotechnics unit then swapped it for a Harvest Master control unit , and I found myself buying all the extra bells and whistles to go with it, before I knew what was going on, I had a heater, dehimudifier, humidifier, ozone machine, side lights, DWC with oversized air pumps and a chiller unit to maintain the nute temps and CO2 all for a 1st timer wardrobe grow....
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This was in 2013.
Complete overkill, and so many parameters to keep under control. Plus it was supposed to be a stealth grow, but the noise from the fans, air pumps and water cooler was full on!
SO much cash pissed up the wall and a total fuck up. The only good thing about that gear was the Helios 6 LED I got from Muddy RIP.
Early adopter of LEDs, me.

Anyway, I'm glad the Coco and airpot combo is working for you mate.... keep up the good work, and let me know about the sensor... I'll be picking your brains about VPD once I pull my finger out and get one.

I was living in that blissful ignorance myself m8 but I want to try and dial things in now as best I can for the plants..

I just went for the one without the probe.. it's a little box not much bigger than a matchbox with a great magnet on the back.. I think its fine stuck on a pole at about canopy height.

Mate lol that's a hella expensive set up from back in the day. I'm with you on the point tho. RIP Muddy

Realistically I need a dehumidifier. With the lung room having no natural vent or air in its a must if I want proper control.. and even then it could be a struggle. That's the ultimate question for me. Do I want to go down that road. So far all ive bought is wee Cloudcom for monitoring.. it convinced me to dig out my old extract fan heater and inkbird controller which im running now to see whats possible with my old kit. I need to get an AC Infinity controller to tie everything together and the extract fan with it will be a worthy investment.. ill see what i can do from there. I'll be picking that up in the next few weeks but I know that ultimately i would need a dehumidifier for proper control and with that comes more electric usage more noise and more heat in the lung room. Not sure i want to go that far.

Another factor is that the wee tent will be coming down in a few weeks which means a bit less heat and transpiration in the room and that should help a bit with only 1 tent in there. I can only properly test conditions when im back down to the standard 1 tent.. the wee ones only up to let me get going early (looks like too early based on the sour diesel!!) on the next big girl.

VPDs still fresh to me but simple enough to get the head round.. learning about it has changed my outlook like nothing else has in my 12/13 years of growing.. i wish it was as easy to control as it is to understand. I feel like this Grape crinkle is already one of the best plants ive grown in a while (no kiss of death no kiss of death lol) and i think thats because ive paid a lot more attention to my VPD and kept it where it should be for as much of the plants life as possible. If i can see her through to the end 'in range' as much as is possible im sure she'll be a beauty. Always happy to help if I can my friend. Stay safe

 

[hope2grow]

Just a bit more on the info from the wee Cloudcom..

You can see along the bottom of the graph the time.. so at 2pm the light goes off and we have that humidity spike.. temp drops rapidly.. red line.. humidity rises rapidly purple line.. and the result is a drop in VPD. Humidity is the concern here of course with plants in flower especially the later stages. So with all that I have at my disposal atm I switch the wee oil rad on and..

Temp starts to rise.. and RH starts to fall.. but still not as low as id like it to be.. so i continue to try and tune things in and keep a close eye on what happens when I do what

 

[hope2grow]

Grape crinkle 8 weeks old today..

Melonade runtz 12 days..

And the coco sour D.. day 40..

 

[Sawney_bean]

Very noice
That diesel is flying ooooof

 

[Teetee]

Nice work Hope. Lots of variety going on there as always!

 

[Antonio_DutchPassion]

The 'amount of water till run off' does vary, in the same 20L airpot, a mid veg plant might take 3L before I see runoff, while a big flowering beast would take 7L before even a dribble.
I can't compare with soil, cos I'm shit at soil, while you my Sir... maybe it's cos we're on opposite sides of the planet?
Mind you, Sawney and your good self got me thinking about it... I would need to know more about what kind of soil to pick (I'd imagine I have to be watchful of NPK and pH etc) and the full feeding schedule.. surely you can't do a whole grow just by adding plain water?

Yes you can mate, it's called the water only method, and with Biotabs you can do that if you want.

Personally I always like to add a bit of bottle nutes just to find the max they can handle, but I've seen many many grows by people just putting all the dried organic nutes in the soil and water from the start to finish. Often late flowering you see some things occuring in the leaves, but nothing too bad.

No m8. Seems that the one to have is the new AI+ job.. plus extract fan and bits is a fair bit more of an investment!

Plan is to monitor the environment, VPD in particular for a few weeks with this little gadget, to get an idea where I am as the tent sits now.. and also what's likely to be possible within the confines of the grobog as the lung room.. then decide if its worth the doe to see if I can improve things with the various bits of equipment available.

Definitely worth it mate, we just fitted the new AI controller in a growroom, will use it side by side with the more general 69pro controller, but will take some time before I can share info. These are definitely fun gadgets to use, and very helpful too imo!

Day 7..
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Solid start mate and enjoy growing her mate!

Shes in the wee 2x2 tent atm.. no environmental controls.. just winging it..
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2 tents in a wet room.. who said i dont like a challenge.. humidity very hard to handle.
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Just winging it seem to work fine as well, especially with auto's there is some room for errors!

I was living in that blissful ignorance myself m8 but I want to try and dial things in now as best I can for the plants..

I just went for the one without the probe.. it's a little box not much bigger than a matchbox with a great magnet on the back.. I think its fine stuck on a pole at about canopy height.

Mate lol that's a hella expensive set up from back in the day. I'm with you on the point tho. RIP Muddy

Realistically I need a dehumidifier. With the lung room having no natural vent or air in its a must if I want proper control.. and even then it could be a struggle. That's the ultimate question for me. Do I want to go down that road. So far all ive bought is wee Cloudcom for monitoring.. it convinced me to dig out my old extract fan heater and inkbird controller which im running now to see whats possible with my old kit. I need to get an AC Infinity controller to tie everything together and the extract fan with it will be a worthy investment.. ill see what i can do from there. I'll be picking that up in the next few weeks but I know that ultimately i would need a dehumidifier for proper control and with that comes more electric usage more noise and more heat in the lung room. Not sure i want to go that far.

Another factor is that the wee tent will be coming down in a few weeks which means a bit less heat and transpiration in the room and that should help a bit with only 1 tent in there. I can only properly test conditions when im back down to the standard 1 tent.. the wee ones only up to let me get going early (looks like too early based on the sour diesel!!) on the next big girl.

VPDs still fresh to me but simple enough to get the head round.. learning about it has changed my outlook like nothing else has in my 12/13 years of growing.. i wish it was as easy to control as it is to understand. I feel like this Grape crinkle is already one of the best plants ive grown in a while (no kiss of death no kiss of death lol) and i think thats because ive paid a lot more attention to my VPD and kept it where it should be for as much of the plants life as possible. If i can see her through to the end 'in range' as much as is possible im sure she'll be a beauty. Always happy to help if I can my friend. Stay safe

Just for info for you mate, I know AC infinity is also working on a de-humidifier, if all goes well, it will come out early next year. I know from a reliable source ;-) Something that you can include in the whole controller based setup.

But I think Teetee was right, once you start linking the products, eventually you want them ALL

However, up until now I think its all worth investing in it, we are just about to test their LEDs now as well, compared to same wattage/power from Migro for example. Will be cool to see what comes out of it the next 2-3 runs!

Plants look like they like the better VPD range mate, very healthy growth too