Reversing Autos & Pollinate Photos

[RYCBAR]

Figured this might be a fun thought experiment.

If you were to reverse a auto, and breed it with a photoperiod.
What would come out?


50% Photoperiod similar to mom.
50% Autos similar to "auto reversed male"

Would it still be a 80% photo to 20% auto, just feminized?

It would be cool to cross some rud with photos to shorten the grow time of narrow leaf cannabis.
Seasons are too short this way to grow them.

 

[HemiSync]

Might be an interesting thought experiment, but I don’t think I would waste my limited grow space and time to this one. I mean think about, most amateur pollen chuckers start doing it to make seed they don’t have to purchase. There are literally 1000s of stable photo strains already out there to make seed from and to a less degree the same can be said of autos. Although I have found many autos to not be anywhere near as stable as their photo genetics.

So reversing an auto and crossing with a photo is basically undoing the hard work the original breeder put into stabilizing that auto strain and your resulting seeds will be a mess IMHO. I think time would be better spent duplicating and feminizing strains you like and that have already been breed to be a stable stock.

Now give me 10,000 square feet and unlimited resources and I will go into breeding mode with all kinds of tricks. But for the most part, having a few thousand seeds of each of my favorite strains in the deep freeze helps me sleep better at night.

Good luck with your projects.

Figured this might be a fun thought experiment.

If you were to reverse a auto, and breed it with a photoperiod.
What would come out?

 

[RYCBAR]

Would it though?

If you have a really stable IBL auto and a stable photo.

Why would the offspring's be a "mess"

Should be like any other reversed plant.

There is just the unknown of how the non dominate trait will express itself in the R1s.


Admins mind fixing my stoned spelling on the title? (Reversing Autos & Pollinating Photos.)

 

[RYCBAR]

I bet it would be 80% photo, 20% auto.
Really similar to parents.

The only difference is the pollen is always X (female). Would likely come out the same way a reg would. Just all females.

 

[Proph]

This is not something new. This is how all "original" autos are made. This is exactly how Mephisto creates autos from photo period clone only cuts. The seeds from an auto crossed to a photo period will be all photo period at F1... F2's will be 25% auto.. F3's 50% auto.. F4 should get you to 100% autos.

 

[wannagrowbuds]

The F1 is what is known as a "fast" strain, not auto but more reactive to change in light cycle and faster flowering.

 

[HemiSync]

Not sure what botany book you got that definition from, but that’s not the definition of a F1.

“ An F1 Hybrid (also known as filial 1 hybrid) is the first filial generation of offspring of distinctly different parental types. F1 hybrids are used in genetics, and in selective breeding, where it may appear as F1 crossbreed. The term is sometimes written with a subscript, as F1 hybrid. Subsequent generations are called F2, F3, etc.”

The F1 is what is known as a "fast" strain, not auto but more reactive to change in light cycle and faster flowering.

 

[Arthur]

Not sure what botany book you got that definition from, but that’s not the definition of a F1.

“ An F1 Hybrid (also known as filial 1 hybrid) is the first filial generation of offspring of distinctly different parental types. F1 hybrids are used in genetics, and in selective breeding, where it may appear as F1 crossbreed. The term is sometimes written with a subscript, as F1 hybrid. Subsequent generations are called F2, F3, etc.”

Believe he is referring to the F1 auto/photo. When sold they are refferenced as "fast photo" seeds. While they don't autoflower, their run time is shorter than standard photos.

 

[RYCBAR]

This is not something new. This is how all "original" autos are made. This is exactly how Mephisto creates autos from photo period clone only cuts. The seeds from an auto crossed to a photo period will be all photo period at F1... F2's will be 25% auto.. F3's 50% auto.. F4 should get you to 100% autos.

Missing the question though.

I am talking about reversing. You cant just keep crossing reversed plants to get a true auto.

Photo X Reversed auto male.

R1 X R1 (reversed male)

R2 x R2 (reversed male)

etc. etc.

The question is how will the non-dominate traits be passed in a reversed plants offspring.


Would it be

50% 50%.
80% 20%?
33% 33% 33%?

For Photo to auto ratio.

 

[RYCBAR]

If we can better understand that, we might be able to have an easier time breeding reverses in general. So we can figure out how to pass on the traits we want. Yah dig?

Just a thought experiment.