Update Feeding Chart for AF?

"I buy DynaGro 1 gallon at a time ($55) and to make this an apples-to-apples comparison I’ll be comparing DG’s 1 gallon to MegaCrop’s 2500g size @ $32.69 (includes shipping). They mix up a similar amount of reservoirs but the gallon of DG will last about 5 weeks longer.

So the first thing that I want to address is the inaccuracy printed on the bags of Megacrop. They claim that 4gs of their product into a gallon of water equals 1.2EC (840 ppm). I measured 4 different times out of 2 different MC bags with a freshly calibrated EC pen. The best I came up with is that 4gs of MegaCrop into a gallon of water equals 0.87EC (610 ppm) which means MegaCrop is over-stating their potency by nearly 38%. I also checked out MC's website some months ago and they had a lot of misleading information about the cost of comparable products on the market. For instance, they calculated their own cost of use at a feeding strength of 1.0 EC but when they calculated the cost of a competitor's product they did so at feeding levels sometimes well over 2.0 EC. That's shady as hell and it's the same thing AN used to pull when attacking their competitors in the market. That bit on their website has since been taken down but used to be here: (https://greenleafnutrients.com/product-comparison/?v=b457452c21b1).

In the defense of MegaCrop, and let me be clear here, they do lie on their bags, however, those recommendations are safe for your average idiot grower who doesn't own a ppm/EC pen and blindly follows the manufacturers recommendations. Even feeding at their high end of 6gs/gal, you're still safe. Compare that to many other feeding charts, DynaGro's included, and following them to a T will absolutely scorch your plants.

So let’s figure out the real cost of MC in my 18 gallon reservoir. I’ll be feeding at around 1.1 EC from start to finish which means MC (90g each week into the reservoir) is going to cost $10.59 for this 9 week flowering period. DynaGro at the same feeding level costs $15.12 (115mls each week into the reservoir). Now this is a difference of $4.53 over a 2 month period. Obviously the difference in price increases with the scale of the grow and at some level the price difference between the two products could outweigh the inconvenience of dealing with dusty dry foods that need pH-adjustments every few days. Yield would be a factor too. If MC is more of a pain to deal with but yields more then obviously that’s something to consider too. Generally speaking in my life, time is the most important commodity so naturally I’d always be leaning towards the liquid foods in any wet vs dry plant food comparison.

Full disclosure here: I do use a couple other additives along with DG. They're not necessary but they are beneficial and I believe these products are already included in the MC dry mix that I'm currently using. So with DG, the money that I'm not spending on pH-up and down could easily be negated by the couple additives that I use.

So it looks like Mega Crop did not take down the cost comparison that I saw on their site. It can be found here (https://greenleafnutrients.com/product/mega-crop/?v=7516fd43adaa#!/NPK).

So what rubs me the wrong way is that they are comparing their own cost of use at 4.1g servings which equals 633 ppm (0.9EC) to 10ml/gal servings with DynaGro which equals 1150ppm (1.64 EC). That's not an apple-to-apples comparison and when calculating cost at these very different feeding levels it becomes VERY misleading.

Let's looks at the Aqua Flakes Comparison too. I've used Aqua Flakes in the past and I actually really liked it. It's a 2-part food and you use equal parts from start to finish. Super easy! So MC is claiming that this is THE most expensive plant food option on their list. They're saying that 40L of Aqua Flakes only makes 587 gallons. That means that users are feeding their plants with a total of 68.1 mls/gal! If I recall the potency of Aqua Flakes correctly, that's a feeding level of 5451ppm (7.78 EC). I'm thinking someone forgot to carry a 1 or something? If shooting for 1.1 EC, Aqua Flakes users only need about 4.5mls/gal of each part. At that feeding rate, 40L of food makes 4444 gallons of food.

So as you can see MC is not doing apples-to-apples comparisons here which I think is shady and misleading. So far it looks like MC is a good product and they shouldn't be resorting to these lies to sell their plant foods."
why do you keep spamming garbage this multiple places in our forum here?

Is MC perfect? Nope. Is MC the best nutrient money can buy? Nope.
Why isn't MC the best nutrient?
 
why do you keep spamming garbage this multiple places in our forum here?


Why isn't MC the best nutrient?
This was from another forum in which someone is doing a comparison grow with megacrop and dyna grow. An issue came up about your EC/price comparisons on your site. Maybe you could clear the air really quick?
 
I looked into the figures a bit out of curiosity, correct me if I'm wrong:

9.9kg MC equates to 9400l (your figure based on 4g/gal) @ $94.93 or $0.01 per litre / $0.038 per gallon

20l Aqua Flakes A+B equates to 10000l (@2ml/l) @ $219.95, although I can get for $152 including shipping in UK, or $0.021 per litre / $0.08 per gallon.

The figure 2ml/l for Aqua Flakes is a high average of recommended use over a grow. Doing this for Megacrop gives me 7524l using an average of 5g/gal.

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Why isn't MC the best nutrient?

Did you not read my entire post? For the casual home grower, it might be the best product available and I'm 100% sold on it. For people that are really trying to dial in perfect grows, an all in one granular fertilizer might not be the perfect choice. It's dusty, mixing it in smaller doses can be inconsistent, and it draws moisture faster than silica gel.

It seems like a product geared more towards commercial growers that has been down scaled for home use to tap into a growing market. There is nothing wrong with that, but in a community of OCD growers that sweat every ppm - some folks are going to get better results from products that have been hydroponic staples for decades.

Like I said, I now use MegaCrop exclusively and I don't see that changing. The ease of use and convenience of an all in one product are perfect for a lazy guy that works 70+ hours a week. I'm also far from being the best grower in this community. You guys are making incremental changed and by all accounts your product continues to improve. If you were the best nutrient money could buy that probably wouldn't be the case.

Keep up the good work and I'll keep posting pictures of fat buds grown with your product.
 
Well I like Mega Crop. It is pennies a feed not dollars. The last all in one I tried was 99.00 a liter I could not even get it to grow two photo plants to fruition. They had to send me more. A/N is the biggest waist of time and money. M.C. is an easy nute to dial in and with a bit of bud explosion you can grow huge tasty plants that require no flush. I'm hooked on it. There is no worrying about coming up with 100.00 to buy some additive you need to keep your nutrient regime going I hated that. This is the best I have ever used period. It is simple to use just have a set of scales to measure correctly.
 
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I love Mega Crop. It's so easy to use and so few issues.



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Did you not read my entire post?
yes, I did read the whole post. Was just curious if there was anything else. I understand that people have different needs and grow systems, and not everything works the best for everyone.

For growers looking for "exact" even ppm of each nutrient who are also doing extremely small grows, you have 2 options now
1) mix 50-100g in a liquid concentrate, then dose from there. The large dose size will even out any inconsistencies in the mix, so if you stir/mix well, it should be very consistent.
2) coffee grinder/blender mix into everything powder, which a few people I hear are doing recently.
 
yes, I did read the whole post. Was just curious if there was anything else. I understand that people have different needs and grow systems, and not everything works the best for everyone.

For growers looking for "exact" even ppm of each nutrient who are also doing extremely small grows, you have 2 options now
1) mix 50-100g in a liquid concentrate, then dose from there. The large dose size will even out any inconsistencies in the mix, so if you stir/mix well, it should be very consistent.
2) coffee grinder/blender mix into everything powder, which a few people I hear are doing recently.
Since you suggest a premixed solution, how long will it remain stable?
 
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