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[Grey Bear]

I am not the best diagnostician, but in your small space, with a leafyassed plant and a few bobbles, I am not surprised to see a bit higher or quicker fan leaf consumption. (cut em off when they are most done)
I never worry about them being too green, myself. As long as they aren't showing burning tips.
I think your space and conditions are causing a mixture of symptoms.
If I walked in and just had to assume your grow, I would make sure the nute solution was fresh and running about where you have it.
I think she needs more air circulation, I would trim or pull as much of the dead stuff off as was easy to reach and then cut off about 10-15 fan leaves everyday, until it did not look quite as thick in there. Assuming she didn't get worse I would slowly up her nutes about 100 ppm every 48 hours.
Anyway, pay attention if someone a little better at diagnosing chimes in, I am always learning myself.

 

[GoAuto6]

hows your PH?

 

[Animatey]

hows your PH?

It's fucked, thanks very much for asking!!!! So... I'm using Advanced Nutrients PH perfect, and apparently it isn't working anymore... Well what the fuckaroo?

I measured it at 7.1 :|

Took it down to 5.9 after that. I had to use a meter! And remix! It was horrible, it reminded me of life without ph perfect lol :{

Thanks again man for checking. I was actually just going to respond "I'm using PH perfect so I hope it's OK", but decided to check on a whim, so really, thanks!

I am not the best diagnostician, but in your small space, with a leafyassed plant and a few bobbles, I am not surprised to see a bit higher or quicker fan leaf consumption. (cut em off when they are most done)
I never worry about them being too green, myself. As long as they aren't showing burning tips.
I think your space and conditions are causing a mixture of symptoms.
If I walked in and just had to assume your grow, I would make sure the nute solution was fresh and running about where you have it.
I think she needs more air circulation, I would trim or pull as much of the dead stuff off as was easy to reach and then cut off about 10-15 fan leaves everyday, until it did not look quite as thick in there. Assuming she didn't get worse I would slowly up her nutes about 100 ppm every 48 hours.
Anyway, pay attention if someone a little better at diagnosing chimes in, I am always learning myself.

Thanks again for taking a look man

So my PH has somehow been getting jacked up...

Here is my process for cleaning the bucket weekly, now that there is no algae left:

• I drain the bucket to waste
• I run 4 gallons of tapwater through the bucket
• I take the filter out of the sump and clean it
• I don't do anything to the airstones as far as cleaning them
• I don't rinse the roots at all anymore (since all the brown is gone)

Is this OK to you? I am wondering if running all that tap water through there is messing it up. My tap water is pretty bad, like 200PPM, but I only use it for rinsing. Then I fill the bucket with nute solution.

PH Perfect seemed to be working before, but maybe on lower PPMs it sucks or something? I dunno man, but I don't like that shit. I will go back to flopping around with gen hydro instead of paying all the exra $ for auto PH. I will stick with advanced for the rest of the grow, but that is frustrating...

Anyways, thanks as always for the reply, they are helpful!


EDIT: For the sake of clarity, I had remixed the solution on Sunday completely. I added back probably 3 quarts since then of distilled. I don't think the ph perfect should have failed in that situation... :|

 

[Animatey]

PH is already up to 6.3!?

Huh... maybe it will stabilize?

The roots look healthy, there is no brown stuff so I wonder what could be wonkin up the PH in there...

 

[GodAmJT]

I don't have any experience with any of the pH-stabilizing nutes, but I do know from experience, the plant will shift pH throughout its lifespan. When it's young, growing fast and vigorously, pH will rise, as the plant dumps more O2 and takes in more CO2.. As it shifts towards end-of-life and begins to die, the plant will begin to drop the pH, and it can go acidic rather quickly..


Ask me how I know!!!!!!

 

[Animatey]

I don't have any experience with any of the pH-stabilizing nutes, but I do know from experience, the plant will shift pH throughout its lifespan. When it's young, growing fast and vigorously, pH will rise, as the plant dumps more O2 and takes in more CO2.. As it shifts towards end-of-life and begins to die, the plant will begin to drop the pH, and it can go acidic rather quickly..


Ask me how I know!!!!!!

lol how do you know ;D??


Luckily the PH has stabilized at 5.8 without any further tinkering. I took a reading this morning, and one again just now, and we are chilling right at 5.8 So a happier plant she should be! Haven't seen anymore of the yellowing sweet leaves thus far.

 

[GodAmJT]

lol didn't think you'd ask, but......


I've grown a few plants so far, and every single one of them had pH spikes during it's early growth.. Some of it was accidental, as in I either hadn't re-calibrated my pH pen, or I wasn't doing a sufficient job of flushing my medium, so a little build up occurred, or yet another option, was when I had a buddy watch some plants for me for a little while, and his sister had failed to feed mine for a few days, so naturally, they were well-beaten when I got them back.. Suffice it to say, after nursing one of the 2 back, it was evident that in the plant's recovery stage, every day, the pH would rise nearly 0.5-1.0 while it was recovering and growing again.. My mentor had mentioned that he knew his plants were nearing finish EVERY TIME, when his pH would start dropping. He said that's a signal that the plant is not taking in nutrients as much and it has more bi-products of decay which are a bit more acidic in nature. Sure enough, every grow I've done, the same thing happens; once I get my pH stable, it stays well with only very mild adjustments throughout the week to the res, and then, about the last 3 weeks or so each grow, pH starts to drop gradually..


Sorta long-winded, but it's something that seems a bit more exclusive to hydro/soilless grows, since we check need to keep our pH in a relatively narrow margin for optimal results..

 

[Grey Bear]

PH is already up to 6.3!?

Huh... maybe it will stabilize?

The roots look healthy, there is no brown stuff so I wonder what could be wonkin up the PH in there...

Animatey,
I let my ph float quite a bit within the range of 5.3 and 6.5.
Now I don't let it stay at the low or high range for long, but I don't fret if it goes up and down a bit.
What I have found is that if the ph is fluctuating quite a bit in your rez, most likely it is time for a rez change or to top off rez with nutes.

Something else for those that are following the general 1/4 strength rule for autos when using ph perfect or or similar products to consider,
These products are designed to work at full strength, using them at 1/4 or 1/2 strength will not necessarily result in a stable ph.

ph and ec in the rez using better quality nutrients tend to stay stable longer.

 

[Animatey]

Animatey,
I let my ph float quite a bit within the range of 5.3 and 6.5.
Now I don't let it stay at the low or high range for long, but I don't fret if it goes up and down a bit.
What I have found is that if the ph is fluctuating quite a bit in your rez, most likely it is time for a rez change or to top off rez with nutes.

Something else for those that are following the general 1/4 strength rule for autos when using ph perfect or or similar products to consider,
These products are designed to work at full strength, using them at 1/4 or 1/2 strength will not necessarily result in a stable ph.

ph and ec in the rez using better quality nutrients tend to stay stable longer.

Hey Grey Bear, thanks again for stopping by and the knowledge! It was def dumb of me to not at least check the PH sometimes... I just figured after I checked a bunch in the beginning and didn't have to alter anything that I was OK to go. I am not sure what I will use next time, but I am leaning toward something with less # of bottles lol x_x


I think you are right on the PH perfect needing to have the full strength to work, which would be too high for mine. Thanks again man!

I should have some photos up hopefully this weekend. The AKR will come down (with some depressing yield), and hopefully the TS is a bit perkier... she has stalled out a little bit since the PH debacle.

 

[Animatey]

Anyone know:

What is this weird white shit on the roots, and some of the hydroton?

I snapped a picture real quick before I have to run to work, in case anyone knows what this is.

I have seen some of it on the hydroton as well.

Up close, it looks prickly, like stalagtites and stalagmites and shit...

I didn't find any pictures on the net that had it...

Maybe it's salt build up?


If the picture is unhelpful I will try and grab another one after work tonight: