Yea when i started growing again i signed up on IC and i just didn't get the vibe i get here. I also had no real plans to stay on AFN but when i realized that the people who run AFN really do care about the members here i realized that i wasnt going to find a better auto flower forum. And then the members on AFN are interesting like goauto with his Alien theme or epenguin with that theme . I think all that stuff is really cool. the last thing for me growing autos comes with huge risks! So i dont think growing is a game or a joke its very real for me. But hanging on AFN making jokes poking fun at Briman makes this place a joy for me.