New Grower Northen Lights Auto, UK Outdoor Grow, 1st Ever Grow Attempt
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If you mix dolomite of lime into your final pot soil at the rate of half to 3 quarters of an ounce per UK gallon,
you wont have to bother with ph.The DOL buffers the soil to the right ph.Its also a source of Ca and Mg.
Take a look at this linkhttp://www.growweedeasy.com/search/node/dolomite of lime
Ive been using DOL in coco for over a year now with no ph`ing or problems.
ps. A UK gallon is bigger than a US gallon (4.5 litres & 3.75 approx) so be aware of this when reading recipes for
organic teas,or anything really.
I hope this helps EG.
you wont have to bother with ph.The DOL buffers the soil to the right ph.Its also a source of Ca and Mg.
Take a look at this linkhttp://www.growweedeasy.com/search/node/dolomite of lime
Ive been using DOL in coco for over a year now with no ph`ing or problems.
ps. A UK gallon is bigger than a US gallon (4.5 litres & 3.75 approx) so be aware of this when reading recipes for
organic teas,or anything really.
I hope this helps EG.
I'm on day 50 something with my rqs nl. I can't smell it until I open my cupboard. I have an ona block outside the cab but in all honesty I feel it's unnecessary. That being said I've gone through loads of journals and some people seem to think it's quite strong.
Following your thread with interest, feel free to have a butcher's at my journals - links in Sig.
Following your thread with interest, feel free to have a butcher's at my journals - links in Sig.
now she is flowering like a beauty
Thanks Chancy, I am following you too
Max - Thanks for all the info. I have had a quick look, but will studie it a bit more when I have more time. There are a few things in there I haven't considered b4. Like the leaning!. Good to know there is a back up as well :tiphat:
Wienerwoods - I have sensi also. 3 days to germ and 3 days to pop out of the earth. Glad some one feels like me lol. Good luck 2u2
Rob - Good luck to you. North of me! Hope you dont get too cold this summer lol
zain - I have had a sneek peek at your page. I will have a proper look, when it isn't a Thrones night lol. Point taken about going too far the other way with nutes. Thanks
Max/ Mark - No one know's about the plants atm. I have no intention of telling, I dont drink so I can keep stum. One good reason to talk about the grow here is not bursting to tell ppl.
I had a look at the penaltys and the UK law advice RE growing before I started. But obv getting busted would be the worst !
You got me thinking (not for the first time) about the smell. How bad is it going to get ? and any tips ? I am mostly thinking lots of smelly plants around them to cover the smell up a bit. This is defo the biggest risk and its what has always put me off trying before now.
How bad will three (max) NLA plants smell ? and for how long will they smell strongly ?
I think I might go gorilla with one of them just to hedge my bets a bit
Smell is my new thing to obsess over
Really appricate all the responces today thanks everyone :Sharing One:
You have chosen the best strain regardings the least smell, so well done on that front.
Outdoors within 2 meters of 3 small/medium plants you will smell nothing until probably week 5. From then on you might do but in general what you need to be concerned about is when plants are in any type of contained or sealed space without airflow. i.e. a room, lean to, greenhouse, or a cardboard box etc. Then the smell builds up and gets intense and spreads to fill any space in which they are contained, large or small. So outdoors as long as no neighbours are within 3 meters of the plants and they are outside you should be reasonably stealthy.
Wishing you a great grow !
Hi
sorry this has taken so long. I have not been able to get to the big computer, so up lode logistics have not worked until now.
The first two pics are of the plants the day that they popped. The other two are this morning.
I know I have made a rookie error by starting them in small pots and there is a risk of stunting the growth, but hay ho, live and learn.
Not had chance to really digest all the info from all the weekend, hopefully will later today.
The latest update on the girls, is that they just had their first post popping drink (PHed water with a touch of lemon to bring it down). The soil had gone bone dry so I did a quick drip and leave, drip and leave.
Hope to get back on later
sorry this has taken so long. I have not been able to get to the big computer, so up lode logistics have not worked until now.
The first two pics are of the plants the day that they popped. The other two are this morning.
I know I have made a rookie error by starting them in small pots and there is a risk of stunting the growth, but hay ho, live and learn.
Not had chance to really digest all the info from all the weekend, hopefully will later today.
The latest update on the girls, is that they just had their first post popping drink (PHed water with a touch of lemon to bring it down). The soil had gone bone dry so I did a quick drip and leave, drip and leave.
Hope to get back on later
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Early Girl save the lemon juice for your pancakes the only thing your doing when you put ANY kind of acid on soil is wash the nutrients
out of the soil (think acid rain) the only things I add when there seedlings is root stim and seaweed extract
im on my 10th grow all in all 35+plants 9 variety's all in mp compost and I have never used any ph up or down of any kind
any decent compost will buffer your water /feed
atb nudd
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PS the only problem I had was I added unwashed coco coir
out of the soil (think acid rain) the only things I add when there seedlings is root stim and seaweed extract
im on my 10th grow all in all 35+plants 9 variety's all in mp compost and I have never used any ph up or down of any kind
any decent compost will buffer your water /feed
atb nudd
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PS the only problem I had was I added unwashed coco coir
i'm with Nudd on this one. You've got to remember that many people grow hydroponic - where the nutrients you add and the pH are everything. I think some people assume the same applies for soil grows. But if you're going to grow in multipurpose compost that will take care of most of the plant's needs for you anyway. You could even add nothing to the compost and get a half decent plant, add some nice but weak organic feed and you'll be just fine. Soil, sun and water are pretty powerful ingredients!
Hi all
I have been looking over the advice and working a few things out. Here are few thoughts and plans based on the advice you have given. As always, if you see anything and are like
"wow there Sally, that's going to mess up your grow right there" please let me know. Part of the problem of being new is that I don't even know how much I don't know LOL
So I am going back to Max's mega packed post of the 5th first
3)Avoid overwatering, try and get onto the wet dry cycle ASAP, if you do not know what the wet/dry cycle is find out fast. (essentially you need to water the entire pot and let it dry out again to a depth of 3-4 cms, then you can water again, this can be tricky with a big pot and tiny seedling but I water the entire pot, fully dowsed but not saturated fully, you need to make sensible judgements about how much a seedling can take) Do not be tempted to keep watering every day you must let the soil dry out again. Overwatering is an extremely common noob mistake.
3- I have been looking into the wet dry cicle. What I understand this to mean, is I water the plants, then let them dry out, put no so far as the soil starts to shrink away from the sides of the pot, then water again. The watering should be done a little then leave for a short time, then a bit more, until it is soaked but not saturated.
4)If at all possible take the pots indoors at night for the first 15 days or so before the smell starts, low temps (below 20C) will stunt the root growth and the plant will stay very small.
4- I have started to bring the selling into the main house over night and will do so for the next few weeks. I think I will struggle to keep them above 20c. Even in summer nights are not that warm. So I have invested in a cheep PVC green house. I know this brings smell issues with it. The plan re this is to get up early and gently let it air out, maby use a block to mask the smell. The grow is not that close to any houses, but better to be safe than sorry
5) Your seedling is likely to stretch a fair bit starting at this time of year, it will be stretching for light on a windowsill. Consider what you might do if it stretches up and becomes weak enough to look like it might topple. You may need to build the soil up and/or stake it with a lightweight drinking straw and light garden twine. It is a very fine balance with a seedling you need a little breeze to strengthen it but not break it in wind. Seedling stage is the most treacherous.
5- Stretching is not something I had considered. I have propped the seeds up so they are level with the bottom of the window (not the sill), so hopefully they will not need the vertical growth. I have noticed them starting to lean, but have been turning the pots so they don't go too much eather way.
7) You probably will not have to use any feed for 20 days ! Then try and use organic fertilizers, not chemical fertilizers. Organic fertilizers leave more leeway for mistakes. Auto flowering strains tend to need very little fertilizer. The first feed at around 21-25 days should be rich in nitrogen so I suggest an organic tomato feed available online for less than £10.00 typically. Then either get a bottle of Biobizz Bloom or Plant Magic Bloom Old Timer, both organic canna specific bloom nutes. Always consider your safety buying online, who are you giving your money to and will they then know what you are growing. I prefer to do a walking vist to a grow shop even thought it is miles from my house. I do not appear with a car and reg plate and I go early in the morning as a first customer. Keeping my eye out on cars and who is in them etc. near grow shops. I walk past first and check the place out. Call me para. I visit grow shops as little as poss and that's why I use tomato organic feed in veg as that is not suspicious to purchase.
7- This is still giving me trouble. I get that I have 20 days before I need to feed (probably) do I then need to give them something for the veg stage ? Is it vegging that the tomato feed is for? or is that bloom. I am also really para about going to a grow shop and I had not even thought about tractability on line. If any one can spell this out to me I would be grateful. I am really really confused on this one.
8)Buy measuring spoons on eBay 1ml is very small, about the amount that will fit on the top of a £2 coin. 1mL per litter is fine at first from around day 30 onwards added to your watering with every watering. Auto flowering strains will not need much and you compost already has enough notes for at least 3 weeks.(normally)
Measuring spoon on the way from eBay
Big thanks to Max for taking the time to write all that down for me. Lots of helpful advice an stuff to think about that has prompted more questions.
I have been looking over the advice and working a few things out. Here are few thoughts and plans based on the advice you have given. As always, if you see anything and are like
"wow there Sally, that's going to mess up your grow right there" please let me know. Part of the problem of being new is that I don't even know how much I don't know LOL
So I am going back to Max's mega packed post of the 5th first
3)Avoid overwatering, try and get onto the wet dry cycle ASAP, if you do not know what the wet/dry cycle is find out fast. (essentially you need to water the entire pot and let it dry out again to a depth of 3-4 cms, then you can water again, this can be tricky with a big pot and tiny seedling but I water the entire pot, fully dowsed but not saturated fully, you need to make sensible judgements about how much a seedling can take) Do not be tempted to keep watering every day you must let the soil dry out again. Overwatering is an extremely common noob mistake.
3- I have been looking into the wet dry cicle. What I understand this to mean, is I water the plants, then let them dry out, put no so far as the soil starts to shrink away from the sides of the pot, then water again. The watering should be done a little then leave for a short time, then a bit more, until it is soaked but not saturated.
4)If at all possible take the pots indoors at night for the first 15 days or so before the smell starts, low temps (below 20C) will stunt the root growth and the plant will stay very small.
4- I have started to bring the selling into the main house over night and will do so for the next few weeks. I think I will struggle to keep them above 20c. Even in summer nights are not that warm. So I have invested in a cheep PVC green house. I know this brings smell issues with it. The plan re this is to get up early and gently let it air out, maby use a block to mask the smell. The grow is not that close to any houses, but better to be safe than sorry
5) Your seedling is likely to stretch a fair bit starting at this time of year, it will be stretching for light on a windowsill. Consider what you might do if it stretches up and becomes weak enough to look like it might topple. You may need to build the soil up and/or stake it with a lightweight drinking straw and light garden twine. It is a very fine balance with a seedling you need a little breeze to strengthen it but not break it in wind. Seedling stage is the most treacherous.
5- Stretching is not something I had considered. I have propped the seeds up so they are level with the bottom of the window (not the sill), so hopefully they will not need the vertical growth. I have noticed them starting to lean, but have been turning the pots so they don't go too much eather way.
7) You probably will not have to use any feed for 20 days ! Then try and use organic fertilizers, not chemical fertilizers. Organic fertilizers leave more leeway for mistakes. Auto flowering strains tend to need very little fertilizer. The first feed at around 21-25 days should be rich in nitrogen so I suggest an organic tomato feed available online for less than £10.00 typically. Then either get a bottle of Biobizz Bloom or Plant Magic Bloom Old Timer, both organic canna specific bloom nutes. Always consider your safety buying online, who are you giving your money to and will they then know what you are growing. I prefer to do a walking vist to a grow shop even thought it is miles from my house. I do not appear with a car and reg plate and I go early in the morning as a first customer. Keeping my eye out on cars and who is in them etc. near grow shops. I walk past first and check the place out. Call me para. I visit grow shops as little as poss and that's why I use tomato organic feed in veg as that is not suspicious to purchase.
7- This is still giving me trouble. I get that I have 20 days before I need to feed (probably) do I then need to give them something for the veg stage ? Is it vegging that the tomato feed is for? or is that bloom. I am also really para about going to a grow shop and I had not even thought about tractability on line. If any one can spell this out to me I would be grateful. I am really really confused on this one.
8)Buy measuring spoons on eBay 1ml is very small, about the amount that will fit on the top of a £2 coin. 1mL per litter is fine at first from around day 30 onwards added to your watering with every watering. Auto flowering strains will not need much and you compost already has enough notes for at least 3 weeks.(normally)
Measuring spoon on the way from eBay
Big thanks to Max for taking the time to write all that down for me. Lots of helpful advice an stuff to think about that has prompted more questions.
THB I have not given it that much thought, I still find the ph thing confusing. Some of the advice on here has been that with an outdoor grow PH will not play as big a part as in hydro and indoor.
I have a soil and water testing kit, so if anything goes very out of line or the plants start ailing I can takes steps to address it. I was thinking lime power if too low or lemon juice/ cider vintage if too high.
A couple of people advised me not to worry too much about water PH going in, as I can do more harm than good, so I am going to leave that alone.
Love to here your views on this.
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Thanks for the advice. Thanks for the heads up re us uk gallon
Would the lime go into the soil before planing ?
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Thanks fellas. I will knock that on the head now then, no more lemmons. Now I need to work out the safest way to get some organic nuets ! "Stirring"
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