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[DTOM420]

Anyone using Blumats?

I’m thinking about trying Blumats because I want to keep my plants more uniformly moist than I can with watering every few days. My problem is that I have different plants at different stages (like a couple vegging photos along with some flowering autos under 18/6) and I can’t run 1 reservoir for everything. I also don’t want to run a separate reservoir for each plant. My question is.... could I run the whole garden on one reservoir with just straight pH’d RO water to keep the soil moist and, if a plant needs some supplemental feeding, just add it via a direct drench of the soil?

I’m working on a water-only soil for the next run, which would make this a lot easier; but deficiencies can always arise. Just wondering how you deal with them when you’re running Blumats across multiple plants?

 

[Mr.Prospector]

I've used them and recently stopped for the very reason you state.. multiple plants at different stages with different nutrient needs.

I've considered doing what you're asking with RO water and Calmag in my res and hand feeding as necessary. I'm sure it would work. In fact, the blumats have been soaking for 2 weeks just waiting to be put to use but I've been lazy.

Blumats are great. Plants were always happy and the stalks were like tree trunks. If you get them, order a roll of the small diameter tubing they sell. If you make the feed lines longer, its easier to move things around in your grow space.

 

[Mr.Prospector]

Trying water only using Blumats next cycle. Just ordered the Kis Organics Nutrient pack. Hoping it CAN be this easy!

 

[TheMongol]

I'll use blumat the first time in my next grow, heard from some respectable results in my area...

 

[4tokin]

Trying to run multiple strains at different stages with blumats will lead to disappointments.
Mono croping is the best way to utilise blumats.

 

[DTOM420]

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I've used them and recently stopped for the very reason you state.. multiple plants at different stages with different nutrient needs.

I've considered doing what you're asking with RO water and Calmag in my res and hand feeding as necessary. I'm sure it would work. In fact, the blumats have been soaking for 2 weeks just waiting to be put to use but I've been lazy.

Blumats are great. Plants were always happy and the stalks were like tree trunks. If you get them, order a roll of the small diameter tubing they sell. If you make the feed lines longer, its easier to move things around in your grow space.

I’m still debating. As @4tokin pounted out, mono cropping would probably be more suitable than the mixed strain perpetual grow thing. I’m still going back and forth between the Blumats and Autopots or some homemade SIPS containers. Might end up trying both!

Trying water only using Blumats next cycle. Just ordered the Kis Organics Nutrient pack. Hoping it CAN be this easy!

Are you going to grow autos or photos or both? BuildASoil is another good source, in addition to KIS. Depending where you live, the shipping can be a lot less from one or the other. Just FYI. I think the quality of the products are about identical but the heavy stuff is about 2x more expensive coming from Washington state bomber shipping from Colorado; and I’m a ways from either! Just FYI.

I don’t know if water only can be achieved or not (at least by me, lol) and I’m not sure that it’ll work well with autos at all. Tad from KIS Organics has been working with me on my soil mix and I’m using mostly many of his amendments) in the large batches I’m making up. Its beautiful soil but it’s not a light and airy soil with all the rock dust, basalt, gypsum, oyster shell flower and pumice (rather than perlite) in it and I’m beginning to think that Autos really do best in a very light and airy soil that slows very fast root growth. I look at autobeast’s methods and results with the Biobizz Light soil and I’m wondering if the key to his success is that the autos don’t have to work their way through the soil with any effort, resulting in a large rootball very quickly that can support the quick grow cycle up top? Seems like photos may feel they have the time to worm their way through the soil and really establish a firm root for their relatively long life cycle. I dunno. Just throwing crap out there. Lol. Have you ever seen a totally organic or a no-till or a water-only guy that has the same results as autobeast or some of the amazing growers in the ‘Maximizing Autos’ thread? I can’t remember one.

If I can’t make it work in another cycle or two, all my water only soil will be devoted to a photo indoor tent and my big outdoor photo garden and I’ll run a dedicated Auto tent and follow autobeast’s method precisely.

If you start a grow journal for that grow, tag me into it!

I'll use blumat the first time in my next grow, heard from some respectable results in my area...

I can’t remember if you’re indoor, outdoor or both but I DO remember following one of your grows and that it produced the DANK! Are you going to monocrop with them and are you going to be inside or out? How are you planning to deal with issues that only one plant is having; and others fed by the same reservoir are not having? Would love to have your input, brother!

Trying to run multiple strains at different stages with blumats will lead to disappointments.
Mono croping is the best way to utilise blumats.

I could definitely see that. I’m considering using Autopots also. I may end up getting a small set of Blumats and a couple Autopots and trying them both. I know the Blumats were created for home gardeners growing a variety of vegetables in Germany. So, although it may not be ideal, surely there’s some solution here? I mean, what does a guy that’s using Blumats in a 4x8 outdoor bed do when he has a potassium defficiency in his tomato plant but his carrots, potatoes and snap peas are all doing great?

Your point is well taken, though!

 

[4tokin]

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I’m still debating. As @4tokin pounted out, mono cropping would probably be more suitable than the mixed strain perpetual grow thing. I’m still going back and forth between the Blumats and Autopots or some homemade SIPS containers. Might end up trying both!



Are you going to grow autos or photos or both? BuildASoil is another good source, in addition to KIS. Depending where you live, the shipping can be a lot less from one or the other. Just FYI. I think the quality of the products are about identical but the heavy stuff is about 2x more expensive coming from Washington state bomber shipping from Colorado; and I’m a ways from either! Just FYI.

I don’t know if water only can be achieved or not (at least by me, lol) and I’m not sure that it’ll work well with autos at all. Tad from KIS Organics has been working with me on my soil mix and I’m using mostly many of his amendments) in the large batches I’m making up. Its beautiful soil but it’s not a light and airy soil with all the rock dust, basalt, gypsum, oyster shell flower and pumice (rather than perlite) in it and I’m beginning to think that Autos really do best in a very light and airy soil that slows very fast root growth. I look at autobeast’s methods and results with the Biobizz Light soil and I’m wondering if the key to his success is that the autos don’t have to work their way through the soil with any effort, resulting in a large rootball very quickly that can support the quick grow cycle up top? Seems like photos may feel they have the time to worm their way through the soil and really establish a firm root for their relatively long life cycle. I dunno. Just throwing crap out there. Lol. Have you ever seen a totally organic or a no-till or a water-only guy that has the same results as autobeast or some of the amazing growers in the ‘Maximizing Autos’ thread? I can’t remember one.

If I can’t make it work in another cycle or two, all my water only soil will be devoted to a photo indoor tent and my big outdoor photo garden and I’ll run a dedicated Auto tent and follow autobeast’s method precisely.

If you start a grow journal for that grow, tag me into it!



I can’t remember if you’re indoor, outdoor or both but I DO remember following one of your grows and that it produced the DANK! Are you going to monocrop with them and are you going to be inside or out? How are you planning to deal with issues that only one plant is having; and others fed by the same reservoir are not having? Would love to have your input, brother!



I could definitely see that. I’m considering using Autopots also. I may end up getting a small set of Blumats and a couple Autopots and trying them both. I know the Blumats were created for home gardeners growing a variety of vegetables in Germany. So, although it may not be ideal, surely there’s some solution here? I mean, what does a guy that’s using Blumats in a 4x8 outdoor bed do when he has a potassium defficiency in his tomato plant but his carrots, potatoes and snap peas are all doing great?

Your point is well taken, though!

Blumats my might be not everybody’s cup of tea but if you can fit them into your grow you won’t be disappointed. Try a blumat system with 2 or 3 pots connected while using conventional methods for the rest of your grow.
I use blumats with 3G smart pots and love the results. Root development is spectacular. No roots no fruits.

 

[TheMongol]

Indoors, but summers also outdoors, not planning already, because my seedlings are at day 2 and time will pass till go to big pots, will stay tuned here...also like to watch what get shared here, Merry Juana

 

[DTOM420]

Indoors, but summers also outdoors, not planning already, because my seedlings are at day 2 and time will pass till go to big pots, will stay tuned here...also like to watch what get shared here, Merry Juana

Merry Christmas!!

 

[TheMongol]

Merry Christmas!!

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