Which brings up another point . If you pay for seeds with a credit card and you don't receive your order go to your credit card company and tell them . The gal at Visa didn't even flinch when I said that I had purchased seeds when she asked me to describe my purchase . I did not however tell her the type of seed so if your going to try this be careful choosing your words it may be important depending on who your talking too and it may not be applicable in all country's but it works in Canada .

and it helps if you sound ignorant like me .