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Sounds like they need some 'motivation' and a little LST of the mind. I don't know these shows or any other ones really, but good luck brotha.
Can I be honest with you? I never watch or listen to this stuff. I have a buddy who is a "weed nerd" and watches all that Subcool stuff and told me "why don't you get on these shows? Educate them."
So. I am.

@Son of Hobbes Bring color photos this time! and if you want a pic of mine to prove they grow big. here it is.
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Hey now, that wasn't TOTALLY my fault, Adam Dunn can afford studio space but they can't afford software that lets them put pictures up on their stream (durrrr.)

I sent them a lot of the pictures from the DudeGrows show, but honestly maybe I'll start a thread here before the next one and get some fresh, updated pics (plus it's fun showing off peoples work on here, you guys are amazing fucking growers.)