Current Live Stoners Gossip June/July/August 2017

[dankstyle J]

That's exactly what I did!! Had my dads old welding helmet [HASHTAG]#12[/HASHTAG] and used that! Managed to get two halfway decent pics thru the helmet film but I wish I had gotten a solar filter...

What you think of the kushncheese ?I'm growing one in organic living coco I have a feeling it's going to be off the chain .

 

[stepside]

I saw the chat earlier thought id put my theory out there.
If you cross an auto x photo no matter what u do even if you breed away from the "auto gene" the auto will become dominate. People who read about breeding will tell you the auto gene is a recessive trait because u dont see autos in the first gen offspring but this is true for other traits like smell, color, structure but it is not for what people like to call the "auto gene" you can see autos in F1 generations and but what autoflowering actually is, is this a Mutation that be comes dominate, which = Evolution. A mutation that is positive for the well being of the plant will become dominate and the plant will evolve so that all of its offspring have that gene but seeing there is no such evidence of an auto gene i say we cant keep callin it that. There is proof of an "flowering" gene that triggers a plant to flower once its senses a change in light hours, it is far more efficient for a plant to turn off the flowering response gene than it is to create something from nothing you have to GM a cannabis plant for it to create a new gene and you cant say auto breeders are doing that with crossing the very pollen the plant is producing on its own. Photo growers will tell you photo sensitive and autoflower are two completely different gene pools when there is no evidence to support that either. Early day cannabis was wild growing with semi low thc % same with the first autoflowers it took breeders to take a afghan x thai x mexico to create a trainwreck or a india x brazil to get a white widow. Theres early photo strains that where F20 before they were ready. It took the same with breeding autos but since grow so fast it too half to the time to reach the level they are now. If there is anyone that can show me a straight ruderalis plant i will give u free pack of seeds. to my knowledge it doesnt exist All rudy came's a native photo plant the went auto on its own to improve its cycle. You can not take a semi auto or fast flower plant to F5 and expect them to stay 100% photo sensitive. FV and superautos are about(key word) the same thing and the only way to produce a steady stock is to take a female auto reverse it and cross it to a clone of your mother photo plant and do this over and over again when u need new stock. Sweet seeds have mastered this they are great at what they do they only work with fems so being the great breeders they are they can do the same cross over and over again with little to no difference between batches.
Look at it like this you cross an
auto x photo
F1= Fast Versions
F2= SuperAuto
F3= Full Auto or 2nd Gen Super auto depending on breeders selection
F4-F5 no matter what your going to get plants that flower on their own. I know i might rattle some cages with that but it makes way more sense than that what we have been told for years now auto gene no such thing.

 

[Cotton46]

That's exactly what I did!! Had my dads old welding helmet [HASHTAG]#12[/HASHTAG] and used that! Managed to get two halfway decent pics thru the helmet film but I wish I had gotten a solar filter...

I wasn't able to get pics but I did get to experience it and what was cool was it was like the whole earth around me was in the shade but in the sun!¡! Lol but I've been stoned since I got up today to though hahaha

 

[Son of Hobbes]

I saw the chat earlier thought id put my theory out there.
If you cross an auto x photo no matter what u do even if you breed away from the "auto gene" the auto will become dominate. People who read about breeding will tell you the auto gene is a recessive trait because u dont see autos in the first gen offspring but this is true for other traits like smell, color, structure but it is not for what people like to call the "auto gene" you can see autos in F1 generations and but what autoflowering actually is, is this a Mutation that be comes dominate, which = Evolution. A mutation that is positive for the well being of the plant will become dominate and the plant will evolve so that all of its offspring have that gene but seeing there is no such evidence of an auto gene i say we cant keep callin it that. There is proof of an "flowering" gene that triggers a plant to flower once its senses a change in light hours, it is far more efficient for a plant to turn off the flowering response gene than it is to create something from nothing you have to GM a cannabis plant for it to create a new gene and you cant say auto breeders are doing that with crossing the very pollen the plant is producing on its own. Photo growers will tell you photo sensitive and autoflower are two completely different gene pools when there is no evidence to support that either. Early day cannabis was wild growing with semi low thc % same with the first autoflowers it took breeders to take a afghan x thai x mexico to create a trainwreck or a india x brazil to get a white widow. Theres early photo strains that where F20+ before they were ready. It took the same with breeding autos but since grow so fast it too half to the time to reach the level they are now and since photoperiod plants were already so advance cross breeding more of them only help further and created better autos. If there is anyone that can show me a straight ruderalis plant i will give u free pack of seeds. to my knowledge it doesnt exist All rudy came's a native photo plant the went auto on its own to improve its cycle. You can not take a semi auto or fast flower plant to F5 and expect them to stay 100% photo sensitive. FV and superautos are about(key word) the same thing and the only way to produce a steady stock is to take a female auto reverse it and cross it to a clone of your mother photo plant and do this over and over again when u need new stock. Sweet seeds have mastered this they are great at what they do they only work with fems so being the great breeders they are they can do the same cross over and over again with little to no difference between batches.
Look at it like this you cross an
auto x photo
F1= Fast Versions
F2= SuperAuto
F3= Full Auto or 2nd Gen Super auto depending on breeders selection
F4-F5 no matter what your going to get plants that flower on their own. I know i might rattle some cages with that but it makes way more sense than that what we have been told for years now auto gene no such thing.

Agreed with @stepside . @Magic , would you want to join us if we can get a group of the breeders on here together for a community discussion some night? Just autoflower breeding talk.

 

[EvilScotsman]

what ever it it is
looks good!

yeah its cool like. shes pretty... fuckin huge aswell. nearly a square metre and only 15" tall just dont know if the pink is a warning sign for anything. thats what happened to my last one. gonna try do it again just before chopping. she went a few more days and turned back to normal. i was devestated lol

 

[Quentin3176]

Evening all, I've been looking through amazon at some affordable cob lighting and have come across a brand called BESTVA they seem to have decent reviews, they do a 800w 1000w, 1200w, 1500w & a 1800w ranging from around £200-£300. They state they have pretty good coverage 'the 1500 apparently will grow a 6x6 area' although I'd be tempted to use two smaller lights rather than one large, anyway I was just wondering if anyone has had any experience with these lights. Are they worth the money? I really want to try cobs but they do seem a touch pricey for a beginner, then again I don't want to buy shit either lol. I'm a 'mid range kinda guy' haha I use a vipaspectra 450 at the moment but I'm adding another room hence the need for new lights.
Cheers guys

 

[budelee]

They get especially challenging to grow when they hit their growth spurt and get into heavy feeding.

I used overgrow on mine.. check the review.... ( i have that LSH plant as the pic.. bahaha

 

[EvilScotsman]

They get especially challenging to grow when they hit their growth spurt and get into heavy feeding.

yeah your not wrong there mate

100 tops and counting. takes nearly 3 hours of defol and training a week and she swallows 12 litres a day at 1000 ppm. shes a bloody nightmare when you work 12s lol.

 

[Magic]

Agreed with @stepside . @Magic , would you want to join us if we can get a group of the breeders on here together for a community discussion some night? Just autoflower breeding talk.

Give me a time and date and ill do what i can to make it.

 

[Son of Hobbes]

Give me a time and date and ill do what i can to make it.

Groovy. Got your PM too, I'll be in touch and we'll (oh my God I can't believe I just set this up) make (wait for it) MAGIC happen!

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lol