Photoperiod Barneys Farm - Peyote Crit/Watermelon Zkittles/Mimosa X Orange Punch

[Cannaficionado]

So I wasn't nosing around the garden and the top branch from where I made my top split, right down the maristem on the mimosa. The branch seems OK. Its still as alive as the other branches and the split has already started to callous over. I think its just gonna form a big knuckle there. I wish I would have seen it sooner, I would have taped it up. Its super fragile, I've loosened up on the training wire and actually bent it to support it now .its still supporting its own weight and was still pressed into the wire. Who knows that branch could have the dankest bud on the whole plant, we'll see how it progresses

Should also note the girls are starting to look a little hungry, new growth is a little yellow again. I figured they would eat up most of what I gave them pretty quick. So I think I will be giving another 500ppm veg feed and vegging for about another 10ish days, dropping the net and flipping to flower. By then the knuckle on the split should have mostly formed. Might throw up the other net I bought after the stretch and last defoliation.

 

[Cannaficionado]

Its the end of another week in the 3x3. Plants transpired the last of their water yesterday so it was time to water again. They got their last dose of veg feed today as well. It was kind of hot, tds meter said it came out at 650ppm but thats to be expected. Added sledgehammer to this feed. It was definitely needed, pots took way more water than they normally do. They did get pretty light this time though, pots were heavy leaving for work yesterday and light as air this morning.

Feed
Big Bloom: 4tsp/gallon
Grow Big: 2tsp/gallon
Boomerang: .5tsp/gallon
Microbe Brew: 1tsp/gallon
KMKY: .5tsp/gallon
Sledgehammer: 2tsp/gallon
Total ppm 650-680/gallon

Ive been noticing the Mimosa has been a little droopy and sluggish lately, all the tops are pretty pale but I dont really notice anything else wrong with it. Stems are all rigid and healthy. Im wondering if the split put stress on it, or maybe its not getting enough light, or maybe its not liking the constant stress from defoliation and lst, whatever it is she's been pretty much standing still for about a week now and it's starting to get concerning. Last time I grew Mimosa it seemed to be the least picky plant, now it's the MOST picky one. Seems like very slight changes that don't effect most plants are really effecting this one. Hoping this feed, and the next couple weeks she turns around. I dont wanna flower here till she's at least growing a bit.

As for the other 2, they are just enjoying life and cruising along like the 2 little champs they are. Gonna let all 3 grow for a bit and build up some leaves over the next 10-14days, then like I said I'll do the preflower defoliation, drop the net and watch my girls stretch out.

Mimosa x Orange Punch

Watermelon Zkittles

Peyote Critical

Just did a quick check over and it seems the mimosa may be in her own little micro climate. I changed where the clip on was blowing. Temp was only about 68 and the humidity was at 65% in the center of the plant. I think since I'm using a heater and I'm only piping it in through one intake screen it was keeping the 2 girls closest to that intake nice and warm, but was then getting sucked up to the exhaust, before the warm air made it around the whole tent. We'll see if she improves now. Also switch her with the watermelon zkittles in the tent to get her closest to the heat. Temps in the basement right now are 65. Got the heat off in the house.

 

[Cannaficionado]

So it looks like the feed is what the Mimosa needed. She's already put on 2 nodes on each branch since the feed. Leaves are still a little droopy. I'm starting to wonder if this just a pheno trait now. Either way she started moving again.

Only thing is the watermelon has now gotten passed both the other plants which is what I was trying to prevent. Oh well more training coming soon I guess. I'm also starting to think I really rinsed out the soil on the mimosa at the beginning, I was keeping the soil pretty wet. Not completely saturated though. With that thought I may start feeding her a little more than the others.

 

[Cannaficionado]

So I made the switch last night. Blacked out the basement windows, and turned the timer to 12/12 last night. Going into work early today but tomorrow morning I will be doing my first defoliation for flower and then in 3 weeks the last one. I'm gonna wait a week or so to drop my net, I wanna see how they start stretching, that's what I'm mainly using the net for anyway, and with almost a 7 week veg I feel like they are gonna blow up.

Figured I'd follow the advice of the fellow growers and flip em to see if that helps the mimosa perk up or get out of whatever rut she's in with that droopy new growth. Next watering I'll be making the flop to flowering nutes and ramping up the ppms from half to full over the next 2-4 weeks depending on how they respond to it. Same thing with lighting. Keeping it at the same power level for a week then increasing to 850-1000ppf by the end of week 2 or 3.

It'll be a real struggle for me to flower in the height of the most humid season. But hopefully the dehumidifier will do its job, starting June I think Im gonna keep it at 45% in the basement that seems to keep the rh in the mid 50s in the tent. But I guess we'll see when we get there.

 

[Cannaficionado]

So update. The Mimosa has started developing rust spots and so has the watermelon . The watermelon is actually worse now than the mimosa.

So to put my mind at ease I did a slurry test to make sure my soil was still in the right ph and its coming up at 6.71 which seems OK to me. I think what we were hitting on in live stoner chat about excess calcium is where I'm leaning now. This is definitely mag deficiency symptoms and I think its coming from an abundance of calcium and it would make sense that since I added a tiny bit extra 2 waterings ago that it's really starting to show. With that said I think Im going to have to either

A. Find a new source of water, and I do not wanna go back to buying water.

B. try and compensate for the extra calcium buy bumping everything else up a little bit.

Top pics are the watermelon and bottom 2 are the mimosa.

In prep for dealing with this I bought some Epsom salt so I can bump up just magnesium without bumping everything else up too. The only thing with magnesium in it in the fox farm line besides calmag is grow big which is their nitrogen heavy bottle. The plan is to add like 1.5 tsp of the Epsom salt to my next feed which should be tomorrow or Friday and see how they respond to the bump. As far as I can tell switching to flowering nutes should provide a big enough bump for everything else that calcium interacts with.

Edit

Been doing a lot of reading and the consensus is that to avoid further getting my soil more out of whack to apply mag. sulphite as a foliar spray so thats what I'm gonna do, very small amount to start, maybe 1tsp per gal and see how she responds to that.

 

[KingRatt]

So update. The Mimosa has started developing rust spots and so has the watermelon . The watermelon is actually worse now than the mimosa.

So to put my mind at ease I did a slurry test to make sure my soil was still in the right ph and its coming up at 6.71 which seems OK to me. I think what we were hitting on in live stoner chat about excess calcium is where I'm leaning now. This is definitely mag deficiency symptoms and I think its coming from an abundance of calcium and it would make sense that since I added a tiny bit extra 2 waterings ago that it's really starting to show. With that said I think Im going to have to either

A. Find a new source of water, and I do not wanna go back to buying water.

B. try and compensate for the extra calcium buy bumping everything else up a little bit.

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Top pics are the watermelon and bottom 2 are the mimosa.

In prep for dealing with this I bought some Epsom salt so I can bump up just magnesium without bumping everything else up too. The only thing with magnesium in it in the fox farm line besides calmag is grow big which is their nitrogen heavy bottle. The plan is to add like 1.5 tsp of the Epsom salt to my next feed which should be tomorrow or Friday and see how they respond to the bump. As far as I can tell switching to flowering nutes should provide a big enough bump for everything else that calcium interacts with.

Edit

Been doing a lot of reading and the consensus is that to avoid further getting my soil more out of whack to apply mag. sulphite as a foliar spray so thats what I'm gonna do, very small amount to start, maybe 1tsp per gal and see how she responds to that.

I use tap water, i have found that fox farm soil trio base nutirents contains no extra calcium, like it was made for tap water, all my other supplements and such have been sourced because they contain little to no calcium. If you want a full list of everything i use i can make one for you, but i was having alot of the same issues before i switched base nutrients and even alot of supplements i was using.

 

[Cannaficionado]

I use tap water, i have found that fox farm soil trio base nutirents contains no extra calcium, like it was made for tap water, all my other supplements and such have been sourced because they contain little to no calcium. If you want a full list of everything i use i can make one for you, but i was having alot of the same issues before i switched base nutrients and even alot of supplements i was using.

I just dont like my city tap. I guess maybe its not bad for the plants if I let it off gas it's chlorine. As dumb as it sounds it grosses me out so much I don't wanna use it on my plants. I'm gonna try feeding magnesium as a foliar spray. Hopefully that will balance it out a bit. He'll maybe I will switch from an amended soil to a soil with nothing in it like pro mix. After this run I was thinking about trying my hand at organic gardening that way all I have to do is water and top dress once or twice. Hell maybe I'll even give grow dots a try.

 

[Cannaficionado]

So it seems like the foliar spray helped a bit. I think Im going to have to do it a couple times to get things back on track but I think its just what I needed. It hasnt brought the color back yet, but it seems to have halted the progression of rust spots on both plants. All 3 need water today. The foliar spray I mixed was 1 tbsp/gallon, so I think Im going to add a tablespoon to my water today for the mimosa and watermelon. Surprisingly the peyote is just cruising along, at like perfect health which is upsetting because the other 2 went downhill quick.

Edit:

So I did mix in some Epsom salt into the water I gave them today. I did 2 teaspoons per gallon though. I dont wanna over load mag and cause more problems. I'll make sure I take note and remember to add epsom salt to my water. With how they started out I think as long as after the 1 month mark I'm giving at least 1tbsp once a week will offset the excess calcium. I did some poking around and it seems like the 2 need to be at a 1:1 ratio to be non-antagonistic towards eachother. So I guess its trial and error till I discover the right amount and schedule to add it.

 

[Cannaficionado]

A little picture update since the flip to flower, and with the magnesium bump.

Whole tent

Watermelon Zkittles

Mimosa x Orange Punch

Peyote Critical

The peyote has started drooping a bit but color is still vibrant. Very green and I haven't even been giving any of them full feeds. This one in particular is a champ. If you look closely theres a couple discolored leaves but that was from splash and touching the leaves with hands that got splashed with feed water. Other than that she's pretty much loving life.

All the pre-flower sites have swelled up and all have pistils sticking well out of calyxs. Next watering will be a feed. This past one was just plain with a bump of mag.

So the watermelon is looking thevworst by far but 5 days ago all the tops were pretty yellow now its just the worst ones, green has started coming back on the rest. She has some heavy rust spots scattered all over but when I drop the net and defolate most of the leaves that don't green back up are coming off anyway.

The mimosa is still looking a little worse for wear but the green has started to even out on the tops and the yellow is all but gone. No signs of burn on either plant either. Did one more HEAVY foliar spray on all 3 plants last night. It may have been a mistake to spray the peyote, but if cal is building in these 2 I figure it is in the peyote too just not showing yet. She doesn't seem bothered by it yet. Might be why she's droopy today. Anyway that's all I got for today.

 

[Cannaficionado]

Today is the first day of flower feed. Fed all 3 girls today, 1 gallon each.

Mix for the feed

2tsp Big Bloom
1tsp Grow Big
1.75tsp Tiger Bloom
1tsp Magnesium
1tsp Boomerang
1.5tsp Microbe Brew
1tsp KMKY
1/4 tsp cal/mag (watermelon zkittles only! I know I may be asking for trouble here, but all signs on this plant are showing the necrotic spots and heavy yellowing on middle to lower leaves which points to cal deficiency/ something antagonizing calcium uptake. I gave a very light feed of it and Im hoping since fox farm cal mag is organic that after a week or so we will see signs of improvement in the lower areas on her.)

Color is slowly starting to even out but I think a few leaves on the mimosa and the watermelon will be yellow till the come off now, all the really yellow stuff has necrotic spots on them so I think the damage on those has gotten to the irreversible stage. Its ok though still growing and the newer growth isn't greening up right away.

Hopefully this feed will balance everything out, cut back on N a lot with this feed bumped up P and K by a bit and micro and secondary nutes all replenished. Hopefully everything is in a good ratio. Really bumped up the microbes too. Almost doubled the microbe brew.