Hay guys, sorry for the delay! Bloody h*ll this is a great thread (now anyway lol). Firstly I had to get rid of everything mix wise, can't go into details but my good friend is hopefully taking the batch of supersoil I have here tomorrow, or it goes on the garden...needs must unfortunately..
Thanks so much for stopping by Duggy
It interesting you mention the Guano, what Guano do you use? I just used Bat, which Sub said was essential or they started to fade too early into flower (Im not sub's mate, just watched and read a bunch of things from him lol). I used 1-10-1 but yes, maybe that is just too hot. So no Epsom in your mix, do you add any with watering? Seems like silica is definitely something that this mix is missing, gracias for the heads up.
Hi Dazed.. I use GHE mineral magic,( sea bed silica clay ) and also started using gypsum.
I find the guano pretty hot showing as a hungry plant with burnt tips..
I wouldnt add any epsom salt to the mix..
.
so this is subcools mix you cut in half or thirds Im guessing?..eh dont matter really..just curious at to whatcha were thinking is all bro. but this is his.
8 large bags of a high-quality organic potting soil with coco fiber and mycorrhizae (i.e., your base soil)
25 to 50 lbs of organic worm castings
5 lbs steamed bone meal
5 lbs Bloom bat guano
5 lbs blood meal
3 lbs rock phosphate
¾ cup Epson salts
½ cup sweet lime (dolomite)
½ cup azomite (trace elements)
2 tbsp powdered humic acid
and this is mine for autos.a lil more involved than is mecessary to be honest but nonetheless.solid mix.
Base Mix
7 Heaping gallons of coco coir,Sunshine #4
5-6 gallons medium/small nugget Horto grade perlite
6-7 gallons EWC..(fresh vermicompost is best)
and the harder materials combined mostly all together and mixed really really well. then added to the base mix that was blended 3 or 4 times already blending the inoculate and EWC and other smaller components throughout prior to food being dispersed.
3/4 cup grow granules
3/4 heaping cup of bloom granules
1/2 cup green sand rounded
2 cups oyster flour
1 cup dolomite Lime powder
1 1/2 cups granule fast lime(pellet/Prilled)Garden Lime
1/4 rounded cup blood meal
5 TBspns 10-3-1 bat guano
1/2 rounded cup cottonseed meal
1 1/3 cup bone meal
1/2 cup organic granule bulb food
1/3 heaping cup soft rock phosphate
1/2 cup heaping of garden gypsum
2/3 cup heaping, kelp meal
6 packed cups of steer manure(all inoculation mixed and blended separately)
2 TBspn great White
4-6 Tbspn Bio VAM AG
1/4 cup Endo mix Spectrum 4
1/2 cup rounded,Earth Recharge
1 - 1 1/2 cups Buffaloam compost
1 1/2 cups bokashi
1/4 cup Earth Syrup
1/4 cup Elemite
1/4 cup Azomite
1 heaping cup of baseline granules
1 cup rounded of Alfalfa meal
1-2 heaping cups of organic rice
1-2 cups mushroom compost
1/4 - 1/2 cup insect frass
2 cups crabshell
1 cups eggshell dried and crushed only not ground.
and 1 gallon is 128 ounces-16 cups-4 quarts-256 TBspoons-768 TSP-3.8 Liter-3,785 mL
1 cubic foot is 6.4 dry gallons-28 liters
1 TBspoon is 15 mL-3 TSP
1 Cubic yard is 27 Cubic feet( CF ) or 202 gallons or 765 Litres
1 Teaspoon( TSP ) is 5mL or 1/3 of a TBspoon( TBSP )
1 cup is 16 TBspoon- 8 TSP -237mL-8 fluid ounces
1 fluid ounce is 6 TSP-2 TBSP-30mL
1 Milliliter (mL) is 1/5 TSP or 20 drops H20 respectively.
and this is what you mixed bro..see the differences?
5ltrs Coco Coir
5ltrs Perlite
4lbs/2kg Worm Castings
4lbs/2kg Leaf Mold
10oz/300g Bone Meal 3.5-17-0
10oz/300g Bat Guano 1-10-1
10oz/300g Hoof and Horn 13-0-0
10oz/300g Seaweed Meal
1 tablespoon Volcanic Rock Dust
1 tablespoon Mycorrhizae
1/2 cup Egg shells
1.5 tbs Epsom Salts
1.5 tbs Powdered Dolomite Lime
there should be from what brother Dub n Sir Foreman are saying with your few simple additions and increasing of your base(body essentially) mix but 50% or so with simple additions and varying degree's of manipulation we can come up with something like
20 Liters Soil
20 litres of Coco
16-20 Litres of perlite
then you add the same 5 gallons(20 litres roughly) or fresh or bought castings then your hard materials
4-6 cups leaf mold
2 cups bone meal
1/2 cup bloom guano is you choose
1/2 - 2/3 cup hoof n horn
2 cups kelp(seaweed)meal
2/3 - 3/4 cup Azomite(rock dust)
not sure what type of Mikes ya got but another kind as well might do nicely but no less than 1/2 cup to 1 cup of that.
3/4 cup egg shells
1/2 cup epsom if ya'd like
get some prilled or pellet lime if ya can..? and add 1 cup of that if ya can.if not thats fine too.
Sweet lime.dolomite lime powder I'd add(if no pellet lime) 3 cups...WITH pellet lime(which i really recommend personally) I'd add 1.5 cups of pellet or prilled lime..THEN add the powder dolomite or sweet lime,at an additional 1 cup or even an even 1.5 cup of each..that'll do nicely imo.
and for gypsum Id personally add about a rounded up 2/3 cup of gypsum to no more than 1 cup..but thats me. but with that and maybe some either alfalfa meal or grow granules(organic of course) or similar for a varied N source (not needed though) Id add about 1/2 cup to 2/3 cup.and Id be flat out amazed if you didnt get solid results to be honest.id be fully stumped LOL! unless your water is hosed..but you collected rain water man..so your golden man.bottled just add a cpl drops cal mag and an ever sooo slight dusting..like SMALL dusting of azomite..like a 1/16 of a teaspoon of something insanely small..see what i mean?lol!! per gallon of water or there bouts.
and you can essentially split the BASE in half and make a potent top coting as well as a full on Photo strength soil.thats more of an auto mix mso you do the size calculations brutha n see whatch wanna do my friend..does that help you out?
take into account the cakes n meal Brother Dub likes and I also dont use but really recommend though,so you'll have to adjust ever so slightly depending on what strengths you might grow..but a bit of each will do right nice in that mix as is though..LOL!
Eyes bro, you always come through with the business! We really appreciate this, I know it isn't easy for you some days typing lots of info out...very much appreciated! Always a little of a tease though brother, we are not blessed with all those bits in the UK, although since my last run, I can see that a few more products have become more easily available here.
I'm now beginning to see the bigger picture with this...it's the balance, I've gone maybe to heavy handed with somethings and totally neglected others, naivety on my part for sure, but also because I've always had spot on results until 1st/2nd week flower and got lost with it, chasing the tail so to speak. Man I wish I could get a tent fired up and drop a bean, but for now it's my buddy who's having all the fun.
Hey Eyes - We should try and pull all your soil building and organics threads together to make one great big "EOF How To Guide for Organics" and sticky it!
Loads of people are getting into soil building - the drawback for me is it all looks too involved! I'd love to see a more simple apporach to this - get similar results with much less ingredients type of thing
although i totally appreciate the folks who wanna get it just right to the oystershell!
different grower styles!
Blue, if we can get this down between us (and when I can, I will totally be the guinea pig lol) how cool would it be to have a solid go-to mix for us UK'ers, with easily accessible amendments, that works under LED!
Phew, so, all that being said, could we experiment?! I have approximately 50ltrs of the soil mix I listed above, should we ditch that and start again or would it be worth amending it with what (the general consensus) is missing?
